Users

In this page, OpenERP users will find a list of differences they can find on the way the user interface and the application in general works. As in the rest of this site, we give for granted that the user already knows how OpenERP works so we just concentrate on what changes.

1   Clients

Traditionally OpenERP has had several ways to access the system:

  • Official desktop GTK client whose support has been dropped as of v7. Some voices have pointed to the possibility to let the community support it but that will most probably not happen because basically the framework has lost the client independence it is required to do that.
  • Web client which has been reimplemented several times but has been available since version 5. It is now been improved a lot and is the only official client since version 7.
  • Non-official Qt-based desktop client named Koo. This client was well supported until version 5. It still works on v6 but it does not support grouping and search views. This client was developed by NaN·tic.
  • Non-official terminal client. Probably never has been feature complete nor stable enough for real usage.

As mentioned above, since version 7, given the dependence on HTML in OpenERP core it will be much more complicated to build generic clients that are not web based. There are some android clients but are of very limited functionality (such us only the possibility of reading the list of partners).

On the other hand Tryton has only had one way to access the system, but now that is changing:

  • Official desktop GTK client.

  • Official jquery-based web client is in the works. At TUL 2012, B2CK raised some money to make a first version. From there on, both GTK and Web clients will be maintained. There was another attempt to build a native web client several years ago but was never finished.

  • Non-official Android client is in the works but it is already available in Google Play and in pretty good shape. This client is developed by SCIL and financed by Bio Eco Forests. The client supports reading and writing to any model, has support for tree views, forms and charts. It can even queue write operations if there is no Internet connection when changing information. Supports Tryton 2.6.

  • Nereid, developed by OpenLabs, is not a complete client in itself yet it is a web framework for developing web sites completely integrated to Tryton. This is the best solution for cases for developing online shops, or other services to customers or suppliers, much better than creating a user with restricted access to the ERP. This is a better solution because the interface can be integrated with existing web site and because the ERP interface is not intended for third party access but for doing work.

    Nereid uses flask and will soon be part of Tryton core.

    Here you can see several screenshots of Nereid for a project management web application, in which all information is stored in Tryton in real time:

2   Usability

2.2   Pre-validation

Tryton has the concept of record pre-validation. This is useful when introducing a large number of lines in a sale or invoice, for example because after the user pushes OK, the line is checked for correctness. This way, if some invalid information was introduced, the user will know without having to wait until he wants to save the whole document, when it would be more annoying to fix line by line.

2.3   Decimals

Tryton allows managing decimal places individually by field and record. For example, decimal places may depend on the currency of the invoice or the unit of measure of the stock move.

In OpenERP, the developer must decide how many digits will be used for quantities in sale lines (typically 2) and those will remain always the same. No matter that the unit of measure is Units which cannot be fractioned.

Instead, in Tryton, changing the unit of measure of a sale line will also change the number of decimal places in the quantity field. And this is just an example, this will be consistent all over the application.

3   Multi-company

Tryton allows the same user to be in different companies simultaneously because changing the current company will not change the information in the database but only in the current context.

This means you can have two client instances opened each operating in a different company of the ERP.

4   Party

The Party concept in Tryton is more generic and flexible than Partner in OpenERP because Party includes also employees. The same way OpenERP uses the same concept for both customers and suppliers, Tryton also includes in it employees. This is the right approach because you do not end up with duplicate information.

5   Sales

5.1   Returns

Tryton allows the user to introduce a negative quantity in sale lines. In that case, a Customer Return Shipment will be created instead of Customer Shipment. This is specially useful because it makes it crystal clear what is the price that should be used for the credit note.

6   Accounting

  • Tryton manages taxes with a one2many from move lines instead a many2one. This avoids stupid move lines with debit == credit == 0.0 when a move line has more than one tax.
  • Dates and periods in lines and moves are consistent. They are normalized and avoids things hard to justify to users such as lines with dates different from the move (this happens in OpenERP).
  • The date of the move it is guaranteed to be in the period of the move. We had to develop a module in OpenERP for that because otherwise it makes things inconsistent.
  • Partial reconciliation in OpenERP is broken: it will show you the wrong pending amount in invoices.

7   Warehouse

7.1   Periods & performance

Tryton has a couple of features for improved performance:

  • Periods: users can periodically close a stock period. Once closed, Tryton computes and stores the stock levels of all products, which allows it to reuse them whenever the user queries the available stock of a given product.

    This is a basic feature for any warehouse management application if we don't performance to degrade rapidly when time passes by, but it is not available in OpenERP (in fact, we had to implement that for v5).

  • Store quantity in standard unit: when a stock move is created or updated Tryton will store its quantity in the product's standard unit of measure. This makes the computation of existing stock for a given product really quick.

7.2   Order points

Tryton has two types of order points: purchase and internal. The former, has a similar behaviour to OpenERP ones: it will create a purchase request (in OpenERP it directly creates a purchase). The latter allows to indicate a provisioning location and it will create internal shipments to move products from the provisioning location to the location of the order point.

This is very useful for companies with high rotation locations and storage locations. It is possible to define order point rules for high rotation locations so that they are re-filled from storage locations when their stock decreases.

Note that it is also possible to define order points where the origin is not a purchase or location but the system will create a production.

7.3   Cost price

Unlike OpenERP, Tryton manages the cost prices in stock moves in the right way. That is, all incoming and outgoing stock moves stores the cost price of the product, which by default is taken from the product form. Having that cost in both incoming and outgoing move, makes it possible to calculate the margin in sales easy and correct.

This is not to be confused with the unit price, which is only required for supplier or production incoming moves or customer outgoing moves.

7.4   Forecast Quantity

Virtual Stock in OpenERP is named Forecast Quantity in Tryton, the most important difference being that Tryton will not take into account moves that do not have a planned date for computing this value and that moves in draft state are taken into account.

8   Production

Here's a list of differences between Tryton production module and OpenERP MRP one:

  • Tryton allows a Bill of Material to have several products in the output by default. OpenERP uses an extra module for that.
  • Tryton does not define work center, routes or anything that is not a bill of materials and a production itself. OpenERP defines some of those concepts, although those are used for definition purposes only. There's no logic involved with them.
  • Tryton allows to have a production without a Bill of Materials, very handy in some industries.
  • Tryton does not force the usage of a picking previous to the production. So it is simpler. If desired, that behaviour can be emulated using internal order points.
  • With proper configuration of internal order points, it is also possible to define the complete workflow of external productions (executed by a supplier). And manage in Tryton the full process: shipment of some products to the supplier, production and shipment of the final product to the company's warehouse.

9   Supply/Procurement/Planning

Procurements are very complex in OpenERP. Maybe not specially complex for users it is for developers due to the workflow associated with them. In Tryton there is no such a concept of centralized procurement but it has several modules for managing supplies.

For purchases, there are purchase requests. The main differences with OpenERP are:

  • The purchase is not created automatically even if all the necessary information information (such as supplier and price) is available. Only the request is created with the suggestion of the supplier to use.
  • If order points are evaluated again, the system will remove unprocessed requests and thus possibly increasing the required quantities to purchase. In OpenERP you'd need to manually remove the purchase in order for the system to recalculate correctly.

The sale_supply module allows you to create purchase requests directly from sales. It would be equivalent to OpenERP's supply On Order.

Tryton is specially good at managing drop shipments with the sale_supply_drop_shipment module. A very nice feature of this module is that it creates a new kind of shipment specially designed for goods being delivered directly by the supplier to the customer. And thus source location for the moves is the one of the supplier whereas the destination is the one of the customer.

Productions are a bit different than purchases. There is no such production request but the first state of a production is precisely request. Meaning that if order points are re-executed, all productions in request state will be removed and recalculated.

10   Projects

The main difference in project management in Tryton is that projects and tasks are are not linked to analytic accounts and thus hours introduced in the timesheet have no effects in analytics. The main reason for that is that analytics should be linked to accounting, otherwise it is hard to be sure that analytics is correct.

It is not available but the idea is to eventually create a wizard that allows creating the analytic moves based on timesheet when the payroll is introduced in the accounting typically at the end of the month.

In Tryton there are several core modules related to projects that make this area more complete than core OpenERP . These include:

  • Project Revenue: which lets users know project's cost and revenue.
  • Project Plan: Employees and their dedication in terms of percent of their time, can be allocated which allows forward and backward planning to detect deadlines that cannot be met.
  • Project Invoice: which allows users to invoice projects from timesheet lines (hours spent) or from planned hours. Developers can also extend this module to create other invoicing methods.

11   Security

Tryton prompts the user password after a certain amount of inactivity time. This is sometimes a requirement in some industries (such as pharmaceuticals) where the law imposes this sort of behaviour.

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